For our 100th episode Jason subjected to Sam, who decided half way through he had talked enough about this movie and would rather talk about everything else we've done.
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[00:00:00] The battle for the mind of North America will be fought in the video arena. The television screen is the retina of the mind's eye. Therefore, the television screen is part of the physical structure of the brain.
[00:00:28] All right. Welcome back to a very special Outer Reels, episode 100. Jason with me as always is Sam. A hundred times, Sam. We did it, man. A hundred times. A hundred times, and next, next week will be two years. Jason with me as well. I'm having so much fun. This is, it's pretty incredible, really. I mean, it's like, there's so few shows that make it to this level. And it doesn't feel like work. It doesn't feel like anything. It's just always exciting to do.
[00:00:57] Some of your movie picks are questionable, but… Yeah, well, the same can go with you. Human animals comes to mind immediately. i did for your our 100th anniversary i did get you a gift there you go happy 100th but i have that sam see well the problem is is that it accidentally got sent to me twice and i was like i was just gonna mail you up one and say i got you something but
[00:01:22] anyway it is the arrow 4k version of yes outland land but uh i was like you know what i told you i bought myself pages i sent you pictures i know if they sent me two of something else i would have given you that this is the only one that i got yeah i know i know well thank you you are still sitting on an andromeda strain for me so so but yeah congratulations man this has been a lot of fun
[00:01:48] um i uh i'm surprised that we're able to well i guess i shouldn't say surprise it's just it's just really easy to do and it's a good time so i'm enjoying it and uh yeah i i wasn't sure we'd get this far to be honest because um i mean there has been times where we've both been so damn busy and it's been a struggle to try and get something out on time but uh you know this this year we've we've learned our lesson then it's just not as stressful then when we need to because we were
[00:02:15] cutting some of these like the night before it was going up and stuff so oh there was a couple of couple episodes that went up late because yeah day late yeah i i went to sleep too early to post and stuff so yeah no it's fine but it has been a great it's been a great time for all you're appreciative it's we're really appreciative of everybody who tunes in and seems to return every week it's uh it's pretty amazing and uh i'm just forever grateful for it you know because it
[00:02:43] it uh we do just sound like somebody is overhearing two guys on the bus talking about movies and that's kind of what we like um if roll the joy and greatness that uh we've been through you decided to pick the worst movie we've ever covered for the 100th episode i don't know if it's
[00:03:06] the worst i enjoyed this more than i did human animals but uh that says nothing so yeah for 100 we watch survival zone which is south africa's entry into the mad max ripoff genre from 1983 but uh i was pretty excited because this you know stars gary lockwood who um you know from 2001
[00:03:33] every episode of tv off for 2001 yeah but he was in a he's in a i mean he was commander gary mitchell in a pretty impressive episode of star trek in the first from the first season it's like the third episode or something um and he was this close to being captain kirk like really he he was almost captain kirk yeah so yeah when it was recast after when the show was recast after uh remake when they
[00:04:00] decided not to go with yeah so i didn't know and of course he is dr frank pool in 2001 a space odyssey which is probably one of my well probably my favorite movie of all time certainly you know that he was also in season one episode five he played a bit part in the highway man nice that was the only standout thing i could i mean he's got plenty of credits but i was like we've talked
[00:04:25] about people being in every one of these shows before so the handful of times highway man comes up i have to mention it yeah well he was in barnaby jones in the 70s and like six episodes playing a different character each time so that just tells you how they did things back then yeah yeah he's reliable right so they're just one and if you're pumping out 26 episodes a season you know who's going to remember that this guy was also and and you know all there was was the occasional rerun
[00:04:55] uh there was no home video or anything so who's going to remember this guy wasn't like season two episode six and he pops up again in season four episode like 19 so yeah that's a very good point actually but but um but yeah this movie is boring it's really the only way to put it it's really bad like i know and i don't say that lightly we don't say we neither of us say it lightly because getting
[00:05:20] any movie made as we know is an absolute miracle so i can't ever say anything is truly bad because this exists so it got made but it's not good and it's just a bunch of scenes strung together there's no real common thread that ties every everybody meets just from happenstance which isn't it which can happen there's plenty of movies where people meet by happenstance but but not when 99 of the population is gone i know exactly you know and everyone's spread out
[00:05:50] but uh i mean it let's just put it it could have been worse the version we watched was on youtube it was only 73 minutes this movie is supposed to have a runtime in 90 so there's there's almost 20 minutes there that we're missing and uh i'm not missing it at all to be honest well we did discuss do we watch the 90 minute version because there's a really crushed horrible version but there's a nice copy on youtube right now and i voted we should watch the shorter one thankfully because it's shorter
[00:06:17] maybe the 90 minute one actually makes it a better movie so i have to preface it and say that there is a longer version of the movie and maybe but i can't imagine that they cut any action or good stuff out for that other 17 minutes so i have to guess i can't imagine it's better i just yeah yeah no but for those of you who haven't seen like there's any story missing from this so no you're right it's not
[00:06:43] because there's no real story yeah because we come across these movies where we're like oh this is a poor decision and we're like no something's been dropped out here it's just not like this this doesn't feel like that this just feels like all these things are buttered up against each other and so this this feels like this script is 75 pages at best yeah and it's there's uh you know if one of you guys have the 90 minute version which i assume out of anybody who listened
[00:07:13] to podcasts our listeners are going to be the people who have a copy of this movie and if somebody has the 90 minute version like to hear your thoughts on it so please email us as you do or whatever and uh let us know because it's always good to know that there's a better version of the movie floating around and time and time again we watch these movies and there are a lot of alt cuts that we may not see and don't see and we comment on so um please enlighten us in fact this movie is
[00:07:40] it's so short and it really is so bad there's so little to talk about i propose that we cover the movie we wrap it up and then we go on to our back catalog of our last 50 movies with a quick review because we can get through that really quick it'll be a better way to fit this into an hour if you want to do that that's fine we can do that so this movie is directed by percival rubens
[00:08:03] born 1929 in south africa he died june 13th 2009 in south africa south africa and no trivia no information on this guy doesn't have anything on imdb his wikipedia only lists the movies that he was involved in and that's it i can't find anything about this gentleman in any which way shape or form
[00:08:29] as a personality so 12 credits mostly it's a combo of directing and screenplay sometimes it also says story by this is the third last film in his career which started in 1964 and it ran all the way up to 1990 his other films are various types of action drama one that stood out for me was a horror film from 1981 called the demon and its plot summary is random people are terrorized by malevolent man
[00:08:59] wearing a black leather glove with razor fingers who brings their worst fears to life starring cameron mitchell oh nice we all know from many many things which would include decker from 1979's the wonderful island of the fishmen and john adams also known as robin's father from 1988's trapped alive so there's there's an extended version of the wormhole for episode 100 um i think the reason
[00:09:29] this guy our director mr percival rumans was not very known is because this just isn't a good movie again like it's yeah there's nothing memorable about it i mean i i think i was looking at the comments on youtube and people like i remember watching this on tape but there's nobody being like wow this is a great stumble upon how did i miss this movie for so long and we see that with a lot of these movies that we watch when they're good people are like oh this is cool like how did i miss
[00:09:57] this this there's a reason why these other ones have been forgotten it totally got missed yeah so the uh official i have to give i have to give them credit because instead of a nuclear war they they've said it was a neutron bomb i like that uh yeah so that's that's really really just an excuse to not have trash buildings but you know i laughed at that too and in the intro i was like hey this is
[00:10:25] our first neutron bomb and i was like why wouldn't all the other movies we talk about that still have buildings and still have clean sidewalks and all the sort of stuff that we talk about and and paint on the curbs why wouldn't they just call it a neutron bomb as well so it's quite clever um in that sense so it is original but the official imdb summary is in a post-nuclear holocaust world roving bands of
[00:10:48] motorcycle gangs attack rangers ranchers oh yeah it's ranchers i had a typo thank you attack ranchers to try to take over their land that's descriptive enough because that's kind of what happens but that's it's not that's not really what happens so they're just they're just looking for chicks yeah really right i mean it's just so happens all they care about or where's the women so what do you what do you pitch it as them what's your well no i mean that's kind of it you gotta you've got a handful of
[00:11:18] ranchers that are being terrorized by a motorcycle gang and this is how they try and fight back yeah that's really all it is um for whatever reason our lead motorcycle guy um man is it's called big man and he's you know he's called big man because it's you know it's it's um bejeweled across his back
[00:11:39] yes and uh and he's got a doll's head uh you know basically crazy glued to the top of his motorcycle helmet yeah i'm shocked he even wears a helmet but no well maybe with the laws of south africa wouldn't let them i don't know otherwise i speculated that the reason he wears the helmet is because he can't do wheelies and so they have somebody else do it for him or yeah there's somebody
[00:12:05] else riding that motorcycle riding the bike exactly yeah this guy our main evil guy in steadman he is in 15 movies and that i've heard of came across half of those are early 80s tv stuff presumably also from south africa and this movie's right in the middle this is his first feature film as far as i could tell however we'd be happy to know that we are way lower way more popular than him
[00:12:34] on the star meter on imdb pro so that's something yeah well maybe not i haven't looked again in a while but what i wrote down for the description of this movie is an assembly of footage that sometimes show one of the guys from 2001 crossing paths with a motorcycle gang set in an ambiguous outback of potential australian looking country later in the film i presumed it was south africa and i guess
[00:13:00] it is there you go well you know what's funny is because early on gary lockwood's on like a ham radio right yeah which right there is reason for jordan to watch this and we should tell him yeah it's true but uh our buddy jordan who likes to think of himself as a ham surprisingly large amount of ham enthusiasts listen to the show yes um and and i mean i as much as i think ham is delicious we are
[00:13:23] talking about the radio but in in this case he reads off um latitude and longitude of where he's at um it's not south africa oh you looked it up awesome i looked it up so unless unless i got something wrong and i and i thought i checked it twice this is uh it's still africa but it's like northeast zimbabwe like fairly close to the mozambique border for some weird reason and it's
[00:13:49] like why would you and i'm just wondering if he just got the numbers wrong or maybe they were gonna they were gonna shoot here originally and that's what was in the script and nobody planned bothered to change it and then it ended up down in south africa or something but um yeah i just thought that was kind of weird it's so yeah it's interesting because yeah it's all it says about the location is south africa and that's it but it doesn't state anything else i don't think they
[00:14:14] don't they never say they're in south africa they kind of allude with that uh what's his what was his name adam strong when he shows up and he's talking to him like you get the impression maybe it's the american midwest or something that but that was why i said ambiguous in my thing because it it's really not defined and then the first time i saw them like in town i was like and then i saw his land rover i was like oh it's right hand drive and i was like yeah his truck's right hand drive too
[00:14:42] it's all right hand drive and they don't even pretend it it's not no and i was like just trying to look and i was like it kind of looks like australia but there's mountains and i was like maybe it's a part of new zealand because i haven't seen it but yeah and everyone on this ranch has a completely different accent because he got locked with it's american his wife is like she's played by um camilla camilla camilla sparve who is like swiss or something and then you got the kids with south
[00:15:10] african accents and then there's like the the grandfather or whatever he is the older guy he's like english and then and then we won't even get into where the nuns and stuff because you know a handful of them at the at this nunnery are are black and there's a couple of black there's a black kid but there's also like a white girl though she never speaks um but the the nuns all have
[00:15:37] different accents too it's just it's wild yeah so it's like yeah we're just not locking it down yeah it's supposed to be like 1989 yeah but i thought it was set in 1994 according to the opening title um i didn't get that from the opening title i thought they didn't they didn't give it a it's got the the it's got the year and then it says in german you translated it for me oh that's right i forgot it said that yeah because the reason why i thought it was 89 was because
[00:16:05] he um it starts off with this guy um with adam strong he's burying his family or something right he's burying his family yeah and then he's got tombstone like he's he's handwritten on boards they're the days they passed away and the one he one he just buried who i assume is his sister or something is it says 89 so i assume it has to be weird but yeah it's funny that it says 94 on a
[00:16:33] german title card for an otherwise entirely english movie um english language english titles any credits that integrate they're all but there's a german card there's one germ piece of german and i believe my theory on this is that the only existing copy of this movie right now probably was some print that came from germany and it had this version on it and that's the only one that's been discovered or scanned or turned into what now we get as our dvds and everything else i have to imagine that
[00:17:02] which also made me wonder maybe that's why we have the one hour 13 minute version something to do with this german print is the version that ended up getting scanned and restored even though there's these horrible versions that we found online that are 90 minutes off tape they're just they're just unwatchable they're that you know yeah exactly it's it they were brutal it was all macro blocking and stuff
[00:17:31] and you couldn't yes you couldn't recognize actors it was it was wild so i'm like nope nope i guess we're watching this and this thing looked like it was probably ripped from a laser disc so it wasn't it wasn't great but it wasn't terrible so yeah it was the best version we could find yeah which isn't they're not very great no um we do get a prologue i'll be quick it's long we knew it would happen we get an explosion off in the distance as usual some stock footage we hoped it never
[00:18:00] would the neutron bomb ingenious diabolical practically harmless to property and vegetation fatal to living things like humans and animals and perennials of the german world rats and roaches some of us came through in europe and the americas disconnected and became solidarity in individuals and here there are
[00:18:24] few animals we all call these survival zones it it's weird it doesn't really make sense and these remnants are of all kinds the young the old the good the bad and the downright evil and it says but then we will start again to survive is always there right after that our main guy from 2001
[00:18:50] he's burying some people he puts some headstones in the ground some wood ones like you said they say 1989 on them the movie is set in 1994 according to the title card which is always fun because either way we've lived through that which is always a treat and then the opening sequence of the movie is this motorcycle stunt show and they're doing donuts and doing wheelies and stuff all these guys in leather and then they kind of get into jousting with chains and stuff i do love that one of the guys is on a kz1000
[00:19:18] which is one of the greatest japanese motorcycles ever created i'm not crazy about it but it's if if you're that that is the bike to hear and it sounds so good you can hear their they're using location sound too it's just it's a great sounding bike but they do some donuts and then they one of their guys crashes and they just decide to carve his back up and i think it's like an initiation they beat him with a chain and stuff no they're so they're doing like this jousting thing with chains
[00:19:45] and or and i don't know so it's either that or it's it's this guy is attempting as maybe he's challenging our lead or big was he what is he called again big man big man big man maybe he's challenging big man for his leadership i'm not sure but um big man ends up like knocking him off his bike well because they're both swinging chains to each other and then he take kicks his helmet off he goes over to him kicks his helmet off and then proceeds to beat the crap out of him with a
[00:20:14] chain and kills him and then that's when the rest of the guys come along and just basically take take them apart basically i guess they're gonna eat them or something sure but but uh yeah i don't yeah it's it's weird like because the cuts are that sporadic and you just don't know but yeah what happens is after this establishing shot then there's this monastery you're talking about with the nuns the bikers show up they attack the monastery and it becomes clear they're looking
[00:20:40] for women and they find this woman in this closet and she runs out and through a scuffle she gets stabbed and ends up dying and big man is like angry and like yelling at the camera and it screams in frustration no she's she stabs herself she kills herself instead of allowing oh she does i i thought she fell on it i see no no she they she manages to get away from him and then she stabs herself and then he's all mad because i guess he's not into necrophilia or something right so we're
[00:21:09] showing one more time this friendly calm compound as we always get in these movies we've seen this a dozen times the establishing nicer version of the bag of the people in this world and they're gardening it's more of a house it's not a big collection it's more just like a single family and the dad is running a ham radio he's trying to get broadcasts out and then we get this 10 minute sequence there our main guy he's just playing pool by himself in a pub and it's really long and really
[00:21:39] slow and i'm like what is he doing and he's just playing pool and then he goes upstairs and then sleeps in his hotel in his bed but he does it because presumably there's no way he left so he can do what he wants but it's such a long scene to to show that in the worst way possible and then he when he goes to sleep they treat it like it's haunted or something like this scene makes following scene makes
[00:22:04] once he goes to bed makes no sense whatsoever and we don't go back to any of this again so again maybe that's the the 20 minutes or so that's missing right i don't know it's it's crazy because like there's this loud noise and banging he's sleeping all through it which you wouldn't if you're alone in a place like this um every you'd be probably concerned about every you know freaking creaky year and sleeping super light but he sleeps through a bunch of it until the door opens up and like a bat flies out his
[00:22:32] face and then like a picture chair gets thrown against the wall yeah chair moves yeah moves and then throws itself against the wall and smashes and he just goes running out and it's like what is going on but you're right though it is a crazy moment it doesn't make any sense it's a 10 minute scene of him playing pool he goes to bed he has this weird dream and all this stuff happens and nothing comes of it and then we just go on to the next scene and then the next scene is there the family is going
[00:23:02] into town to get supplies and this is where i'm like this doesn't feel like an apocalypse movie because they're just casually walking around like there isn't a sense of threat it's almost like the bikers in this movie are like a new thing they're not this roving gang yeah excuse me yeah that's where i guess the idea is they've they've just kind of entered this area i guess yeah and it's a surprise yeah we know it's a kind of a special area this is well i mean first of all it's called survival zone but um but the
[00:23:31] nuns talk about how for whatever reason god spared them and then of course proceeded to slaughter them all with with roving biking yeah but um but yeah that that all those scenes with the nuns have nothing to do with the rest of the movie i guess other than this than to show you that these bike this biker gang are horrible and that you know there's this convent that managed to survive the apocalypse as well because it's this whole area is a survival zone yeah which i guess is also
[00:23:59] why the family have two horses too as they talk about get them to mate right and as they talk about in the prologue that they're these little pockets that were just left untouched by this one of them happens to be yeah i think this idea is the prevailing winds or something you kept them safe or something i don't know something it's basically a way for them to still have animals still have people still have food and not have destroyed buildings essentially is how it works yeah uh did you see so when they go into town
[00:24:28] for supplies did you see the young kid gets a box of something and dumps it in the truck damn right i did got some pretty decent comic books there a big old stack of comic books and then the dad says what do you got there and the kid says illustrated classic dad very serious as he throws it on the thing about how it's it's all like you know heavy reading or whatever and it's like an iron man in there and i think the tales of suspense or something but i did uh they're all just 70s trash comic books
[00:24:56] i did screen grab it for you jason because i thought you could pick through these right here i just sent it to you you could tell me it looked like i could see like two iron mans but i figured you would probably uh there's a champ champions is the one on the top that's there's the two iron mans um and the rest i can't tell some of them still look like marvel with the little yeah i can't even tell what's underneath that top iron you know there's there's one in between two issues iron man i can't make it
[00:25:24] out but uh yeah champions and two iron man for sure um and then it looks like there's a non-iron or non-marble comic in there for sure and that's yeah is the one after the non-marble one maybe silver surfer because you can see in that little top corner icon it's like um well there's there's non-marble one in between well yeah sorry yeah there's that blue one there and then there's something else and then there's something with some purple on it but yeah this is exciting three
[00:25:52] of them for sure super exciting for listeners by the way but listed as 10 cents too um which is probably these are probably south african comics that they grabbed because they also look to be a bit of a different size so okay interesting yeah yeah good point i didn't yeah yeah they're more closer to the magazine size than the standard comic one yeah good spotting now yeah nice job with the screen grab though i knew you would like it i was like i gotta snap that
[00:26:21] and but this is the middle of the movie it's just them doing missions into town for provisions and nobody's worried nobody's scared nobody's threatened our main hero is in his land rover and he's out and then he decides to make a turn towards the nun covenant where he stumbles across all the dead nuns and then he's like oh something bad's happened here but that's all you get from it and
[00:26:46] while he's there i think the idea is that he's following the path these guys are going on inadvertently they're leaving a trail of death and he's just like driving around and he's seeing this stuff and i think this is the one that kicks him into thinking about investigating but he's more of the idea that he wants to lay low and then he takes off to the mountains but then the house gets attacked the family gets attacked the girls get attacked by the bikers and they flee the mountains as
[00:27:15] well and this is like very much a red dawn scenario and they go up to the mountains they run into our hero our hero gary lockwood and then they have a discussion and they're like they're in my house or whatever we'll go back and get them and that sets up the whole third act which is just basically them coming back to take over their house and get the bikers out of there but that's it like and it's like a 45 minute thing and it's it's long and it drags well and it's
[00:27:43] oh god it's it's like 50 50 50 55 minutes before he even decides that he's going to go back and try and root them out like he's trying to explain to his wife that i we can't always just be on the run we have to we have to put an end to this and i'm thinking there's only 20 minutes left yes and sure enough yeah that's that's all that's the story that's that's pretty much it and what they do is
[00:28:09] the the movie finally ends with you know they go back to the house they have a bunch of shootouts and the action again here isn't good it's it's a lot of these just sort of locked off shots it's better than uh what we watched last week i thought which was the aftermath thank you the aftermath this actually had better shot action i thought like the the framing and it was intent i think the
[00:28:36] aftermath as we learned because it was shot some parts in 77 and reshot it's a little more disconnected this is okay this felt like early 1980s low budget like b-grade movie action it wasn't horrible but yeah then we get into this crazy ass fight scene and then adam takes off after a big man like hops into the the favors truck and takes off and then adam takes off after him and then they proceed to go have a
[00:29:03] fight and it's it's almost a quarry it's not quite a quarry yeah they're just kind of out out in an open field yeah most planes yeah yeah and uh yeah so there's this shed there it's got a bunch of farming equipment and stuff so he's able to grab a sledgehammer and he's trying to fight him while the while the big man's cruising around in a truck trying to run him over but there's a nice big box
[00:29:27] uh red box that says explosives on it it's very convenient convenient yeah and uh adam kind of you know kites him in like he's a you know like it's a bullfight or something and the truck comes in and crashes and blows up and adam's like ducks down into this little sort of ditch thing and avoids the explosion when he gets up he sees big man's been thrown to the side and he's fine too and he proceeds
[00:29:50] to get up and pulls a knife and that's when adam pulls a shovel that's not a knife shovel knife fight and uh yeah and then they proceed to fight for a while and then adam's making all these swings at big man he's dodging them all easily until the very last one where he just slices his head off and i laughed out loud when i saw that it's a pretty good shot actually i i kind of thought that
[00:30:16] was actually a pretty cool uh shot like because when when he slices the head off it flies up in the air and then there's a low shot where you see the legs there and you're looking through the camera and the legs of the headless body and then it kind of tumbles down and it's like it's pretty good and then it kind of looks like the um the headless body like falls towards him and it's got the it's got a
[00:30:41] knife in its right hand and it reminded me of the hatchman in big trouble little china where they fall on on jack and he's like just stuck under this giant thing for the time it sort of is a similar way the guy fell but that is it and then the girl comes running out of the middle of nowhere down the through the field to hug him and then credits roll well she says i thought you i thought
[00:31:08] you were dead and he's like so did i red roll and yeah and that really is it and it's it's not amazing it's not exciting it doesn't even look great it's it's like it's better than some of the stuff we've watched but the actual content and the way the bad guys look and the concept is pretty low on the rung for some of the stuff we've covered um i did find you know what 249 views
[00:31:37] on imdb and 137 on letterbox there we go that's pretty low how many likes on letterbox then letterbox 18 that's pretty good that is a good score i like that it's uh it doesn't even have a rating that's something it's a four point it's a 4.2 out of 10 on imdb but yeah letterbox doesn't even have
[00:32:00] way high rated on imdb but still i commend you for finding this is this this is a true deep dive i mean this is this is why we do this this is truly and then it was also hard to find yeah i mean lunar cop still approved is still uh you know proving to be elusive although i think you have an update somewhere in transit yeah i'm still waiting so hopefully if if the if the mail truck
[00:32:25] doesn't explode it should be here uh so i did find a couple things so in the u.s this was released as survival zone west germany it was released as 1994 the survival zone so i think that goes back to the title saying 94 but the tombstone saying 89 it was just the title for whatever reason maybe they released it back i don't know yeah they're just trying to rebrand it as something because also you
[00:32:53] got to remember in new york in in europe a lot of times escape from new york was released with 1997 in the title so there's probably some kind of appeal there to put a year that was set in the future in the title yeah for some kind of thing so um the movie has one single piece of trivia on imdb i was happy to find quote it began filming in august of 1981 as the haunted planet was the name of it well now
[00:33:21] that makes sense for that one scene i guess so right that's yeah but there you have it i wonder if what we're missing is 20 minutes of haunted of poltergeist stuff something like that yeah i don't know something out there but all that said this movie's behind us i wanted to quickly touch on our last 50 movies as we did in in episode 50 the last time around we covered everything
[00:33:49] so just basically a yay or nay through what we watched and where we watched it so episode 51 when we started our street fighter two character map we started in the usa we did mind warp was our first one of 50 great movie i know you didn't like it i didn't love it um i didn't hate it but um yeah it's it's seriously flawed but had some yes bruce bruce campbell always gets significant amount of
[00:34:17] points for me i think yeah it has it's one of those ones where you're like damn i wish bruce campbell was in this more because he when he's in it he's totally bruce campbell and it's great but under utilize a little bit yeah then uh episode 52 we went to steel frontier which has come up in conversation a lot recently well yeah because of because of one of our other episodes well only two episodes back really yeah but uh yeah i know and you didn't like it but i for me it was i expected it
[00:34:47] to be awful and i was reasonably entertained i think it was after what we've watched in the last 20 episodes still frontier is actually pretty good among the other ones for sure uh episode 53 we did calamity of snakes crazy movie i highly recommend bad shit yeah just one of the craziest movies we've seen because we know there's so many real snakes just destroyed in that and set on fire
[00:35:14] oh my god horrible ways like oh just it's a it's peter's nightmare yeah it is but there are some great scenes like the kung fu monster like fighting like a life a full like giant python and it's it's crazy it's that's the only way to describe it worth watching for just premium schlock just out of nowhere can't believe this movie exists kind of thing would be calamity of snakes
[00:35:40] for episode 54 we finally hit stalker that jason had been telling me about years before we even started the podcast and uh i've come around a real lot to that movie have you even more so because you you weren't thrilled with it at the time no i just again nice nice to know i pulled another world on a wire with you exactly it's this it's the same thing again where it's in conversation and in thought
[00:36:05] it's it's a it's a great and it's an incredible movie and yeah it's boring to watch but you have to watch it to be able to enjoy thinking about it is the only way and it does look nice it's a work of art it is it is just a work of art it just is and knowing that like what we saw was the third version of the film as we know because the first round was shot was shot completely lost the second one
[00:36:31] some stuff was reshot so by the end of it what we ended up seeing and i think we sort of lightly discussed it but a lot of the science fiction components were in the original version of the movie they shot and they just couldn't afford to do it so they had to tone it down and sort of more uh imply these things like the gravity and all this sort of stuff which probably at the time now in retrospect was better for the movies just like jaws and the barrels versus the big bruised puppet right
[00:37:00] like it just works better yep um mad mission childhood favorite i love that i'm glad you got to see it and that's a big part of the big aces go places franchise which there's a lot more but just classic hong kong mission impossible for pre-teenage kids really it's goofy it's fun it's it's like
[00:37:22] disney mission impossible in hong kong is the way i would describe it uh 1950 episode 56 you dug out a really good little uh low uh a little a really good sleeper the people who are in the dark yeah i uh i had stumbled across that and in scrubbing through it before we watched it to make sure the version i had was gonna was gonna work um it's just there's there's a bunch of dead bodies at the end of it i saw
[00:37:52] a woman with her head up and as soon as the camera's on her her head goes down and i was like oh we are doing this movie but it turns out that was just one extra that they didn't catch i guess in editing and uh yeah but but this this movie was uh quite a bit different it had all your stuff part of the season actually yeah it was yeah it could fit into that as well and it had a downer ending which you love and yep it's obscure from spain and it starred conan the barbarian's mom i mean
[00:38:20] it was exactly this is a great find this is like true out of real material because it's fun to watch it's really interesting it's still like b grade 70s stuff but it still was a watchable cool movie looked okay uh interesting so 57 ghost warrior when they uh basically i think i described it as it's encino man with a ancient samurai where they just throw him out samurai encino man yeah
[00:38:48] yeah samurai encino man um it's a fun movie it's a great concept it could have been a hell of a lot better but you know yeah i think if you're doing that concept you could go crazy with it and all the crazy things they never did and i think we discussed the problem with that movie was when she's finally showing the samurai around la and like how the new world works she shows him a lamp
[00:39:13] and turns it on and he's like whoa this is crazy and that's it she doesn't show him like snack food she doesn't do all the fun encino man things with the samurai and then the only connection he has yeah it's like the only connection he has an antique dealer who has some old samurai equipment he gets it and then he ends up kind of a downer ending he ends up killing himself because he's not out of that world but it just yeah completely wasted that scenario you could go really crazy
[00:39:40] with it and there's no much action either another too bad another gem that you found which was really cool from brazil in episode 58 was the fifth i quite yeah i quite enjoyed this um i was i was happy to have stumbled across this one yeah and if you haven't watched it yet do seek it out because it is uh and it and especially and also look up what brazil was like at the time too because it's very much a
[00:40:06] product of its time which i think want to say it was like was it like 54 or something like that um when it was made i was like yeah it was like late 60s i thought uh was it that 62 very right yeah 62 okay there you go so i was off by like eight years but uh yeah it's uh it's very cool uh it's a little slow it it certainly but it's certainly a product of its time but because of that it's actually really interesting it's cool to see this kind of story from the perspective
[00:40:36] of a very different culture yeah yeah it was good it felt like there was components like a twilight zone episode but it's in feature length but it has a little bit of this i don't really super spy it has this sort of spy component and because the whole concept of it was great is it's it's a high high concept movie where they're feeding a signal out to all the people of rio de janeiro and they're
[00:41:04] attempting to brainwash them for voting or polling or whatever they're just trying to change people's demeanor it's an attempt it's a it's a sort of sci-fi version of an attempt to coup by and they just listed as western powers you got germans and americans basically trying to do this yeah and it was it was just very it was very cool this is very cool and usually you see this stuff from the other way around and it's not sci-fi tech in the sense of 1962 they're using
[00:41:31] spaceships and everything else no they're using radio transmitters and they figured out a radio wave that does it and they fired they're putting a subliminal signal into everything really radio and television and they do it in little pockets like they do it at the football match and then they see there's a riot there and it's like oh we incited a riot because we sent this beam fascinating very cool i recommend it for a watch yeah uh you came back with uh on something from
[00:41:57] another very different culture mr india which um episode 59 yeah i was really hoping would have a lot less music in it than it did because we got a solid 15 20 minutes into it before the first musical number because as we don't know all indian movies are musicals but uh yeah this one didn't quite work and to be honest i still don't know if i've still watched the last 10 minutes of it or not
[00:42:23] it's considered a 14 hours long yeah it was so long and it's considered a sci-fi action movie i think this is the worst movie we've watched as far as entertainment valley i just didn't enjoy it i know it was kind of colorful and it had some vibrance but there's lots of musicals there's lots of singing there's the tiniest science fiction component it's supposed to be sold like a superhero it's supposed
[00:42:49] to be yeah but he but he can only turn invisible so it's just the invisible man but in a playful sense yeah no that wasn't good 1960 this is during when i was driving across the country on the east coast so i was really tired for all these episodes but we did watch the green slime from 1968 and that is just which easily has the best theme song to every movie we've done with the exception of possibly the
[00:43:15] opening music to to uh a supi because i do love that little tease tease of music it's just unfortunate it only lasts about 12 seconds but um yeah otherwise yeah green slime is awesome opening title song just premium 1960s american sci-fi it's technically japanese but it it is that yeah pure late night tv
[00:43:39] sci-fi creature feature everything about it the music's great it looks great joseph cotton like it's it's got all it takes all the boxes yeah always sounds box yeah that's right and then we stumbled upon in for episode 61 we stumbled upon the last dinosaur which was actually pretty good yeah shockingly from rake and bass too which still um better than i expected yeah from 1977 and uh it
[00:44:08] it has the land that time forgot vibe um richard boone just takes a a drilling a submarine that can drill through a wall and they pop up in a forgotten part of the land in one of it's a one of the polar caps and it's an oasis where there's dinosaurs and it's prehistoric and it's awesome and he he's a big game hunter and he's got all the money in the world he runs an oil drilling company
[00:44:38] and they find this area and he's like i'm gonna go hunt a dinosaur which is fantastic concept he's drunk the whole time this is so we talk about it's just hammered through this whole thing i swear we talk about like remake movies or whatever this is a movie and i'm not fond of remakes in any which way as you know but this is a movie where if you had the money you could make a really cool version
[00:45:02] of this and i don't mean one that's like modern 2026 version of it but you could double down on a movie like this what's funny is since then i've received my warlord volume one omnibus which is mike grill's um dc series from the 70s and 80s which i missed when i was buying comics back then because it was it was a lot had been the series had been going since i think 77 or 78 so the time
[00:45:28] i got into comics nearly 80s it was going too long for me to want to try and you know catch it from the beginning kind of idea but that's the same idea is this this thing is like um that that series is based off there's a guy who was it's it's in the arctic actually as opposed to antarctica which i think this is antarctica in the last dinosaur but he's you know this guy is uh piloting uh it's an sr-71
[00:45:54] blackbird taking pictures over the soviet union gets shot down um it's got get shot down yeah it's sweet it's the reason why it's the x-men's plane dude but right um yeah and the x-men of course they would go to the savage land too which is a dinosaur realm in an article as well i like that it fits the timeline too yeah but in warlord he he goes there and there's dinosaurs there's all sorts of like but it's not just dinosaurs it's like this entire other civilization because it uses the hollow earth
[00:46:22] theory so he finds a hole and goes down and then there's this sort of sun in the middle of the earth that's what's heating it and so it's perpetual daylight under there huh and he's you know basically proceeding to uh yeah do his Conan the Barbarian thing down there that is a really fun series and the art is incredible i love i love anything mike grell's just amazing i love anything hollow earth and that is kind of what the last dinosaur is even though it's not in the center of the earth it's
[00:46:49] another thing where it's like another sealed encapsulated ecosystem that's independent of the rest of the planet is the idea regardless of where it is fun well that's the same as the marvel savage land too same idea oh really well there you go yeah my favorite bookworm as i always like to say and then for episode 62 we went on to a new season we did and uh what was his name in action
[00:47:16] smack jeff um toronto so jeff yeah jeff over at actions action smack gives us our first movie i remember he wrote the book he wrote a couple of great books on 80s action flicks so right that's why we reached out to him because we're like you're going to know some of the best obscure stuff that we're not going to be out of finalists we dig really hard and he couldn't give me enough movies right away so we were appreciated this was a really fun sequence season actually we watched
[00:47:40] some doozies it was yeah we did again starting with lady terminator which has uh far more nut trauma than i was i used to seeing in a film this woman likes to shoot people or shoot guys in the nuts um and it starts with a woman who has teeth in her vagina nine's best was this a filipino movie or where's this from i can't indonesia it was indonesia that's right yeah it was crazy but i think most people have seen it and heard of it it was a lot of fun it had some wacky stuff at the end of it but
[00:48:09] uh totally worth it then on episode 63 actually one of my favorite movies since then was mr no legs from uh 1978 starring legendary ted volrath who was a korean war vet who ended up having his legs removed and then became the first man in a wheelchair to gain black belt which i believe was in 68 i'd have to go back and listen to the episode but the guy's great and underutilized in
[00:48:37] the film because he's just in a wheelchair with two shotguns on it and he goes around but he's only there's only like three scenes where he does that and if you're going to call it mr no legs you're going to have the guy on the cover in the wheelchair with no legs shooting stuff just double down on it use him a lot more underutilized in every which way he does a great fight in the backyard of the mobster's house oh it's so great where the guys come to take him and he's just jumps up and he he kicks a guy with no legs with his torso and then he's got ninja stars on his wheelchair all the
[00:49:07] stuff yeah it's great i actually i i love it so much i bought the blu-ray i bought you a copy of it as well oh wow yes i have a copy yeah i'm adding it to the stack of movies that i get for you maybe i do need to come down there when my wife's in salt lake for sure and i'll drive down and swing by but uh for yeah mr no legs is just a charming movie i enjoyed it again joseph cotton i think it's
[00:49:33] like no who is it um no it's not joseph cotton who who is the guy is in that he's in everything um i'm gonna fuck in mr no legs yeah um oh rich jakel is in mr no legs too and you know we've seen him in so many things as well of course yes in one of my favorite films that we covered in the first 50 um latitude zero and he's perpetually showed up through all this stuff so he's he is out of
[00:49:59] reels royalty at this point rance howard was in that as well i was gonna say we get an appearance from ron howard's dad as well so great movie highly recommend it is on blu-ray i would suggest anybody who collects movies that's one to have because that one time it's on the shelf and somebody wants to watch something and you can pull that out that's that's a doozy and this is a good one to put on the on the wall on a tv at a party with no oh yeah so people can just look at it going what am i
[00:50:27] seeing speaking of movies that are great to have on at a party episode 64 we covered robo vampire from legendary godfrey ho it was good to deep dive on godfrey ho as we know he is just mr he he is another form of roger corman cranking these movies out my favorite of his obviously being ninja terminator the legend of the golden ninja warrior as they say in the movie it's there's so much good
[00:50:56] stuff about godfrey ho and he has made so many movies and i think the joke was is when we did robo vampire we learned that there was an interview and somebody asked godfrey ho about robo vampire and he's he couldn't even remember making it no exactly which is that of course the awesome part of this is i already had this on dvd yes so that's right friend of mine had given it to me as a joke and it's unfortunate it won't play anymore it's uh yeah it was cheaply manufactured disc has probably got
[00:51:25] some disc brought but um maybe i'll find something that'll play it still but it's it's it just ridiculous in all the great ways we are entering that world now where a lot of those like we just recently talked about those print to own those warner brothers ones for genesis 2 and planet earth and stuff those print to order discs are really proving you know we're we're coming on 20 years on now for those type of things existing and so they are starting to prove that they're not going to hang
[00:51:54] and this is a longer form discussion of what is truly archival and what is worth owning and what are you buying and then you're unable to use it and whose responsibility is that you know yeah yeah plus my my criterion copy of stalker is it only plays in in my it plays on my uh xbox series x but it won't play in anything else i got really playstation 4 didn't like it yeah wow so but it but
[00:52:23] it did play down on that one which is fine because that's you know that's the tv i got it hooked up to and that's fine but yeah i got my eye on a panasonic player i think that'll have to become my new go-to i'm telling you man 15 years from now that's our retirement we manufacture a region free hard salt dvd player that has no bs in it no os no anything and it just plays there's no
[00:52:47] apps no nothing and that's that's what that's what people are going to need yeah all right next up hard ticket to hawaii was episode 65 we all know it we all love it everybody's seen it yep yep we don't really need to say too much it's always fun uh yeah yeah it's dumb fun uh then we hit penitentiary two for we had not seen penitentiary one
[00:53:15] nope and nor was it suggested to us by jeff and we learned there also is a penitentiary three yep but but this one gave us the marvelous ernie hudson in the clown wig sneaking around in the behind a boxing match and for that alone it's worth watching and mr t in a genie outfit yes yes exactly and i think mr t i think it was shot at the same time as what rocky three we
[00:53:42] figured out yeah that was yeah rocky three exactly yeah so this is right in time in whatever situation it is it's just one of those movies that had to have got spun up because rocky was hit and let's go boxing's big and we're getting all this stuff and it's happening right pretty fun pretty crazy the longest weirdest prologue we've had as much as we had a lot of these these post-nuke movies with weird prologues penitentiary two had a weird prologue because it's just a freeze frame of like
[00:54:12] the front door of the guy's sister's house while we get this whole idea of what happened in penitentiary one and it was a long condensed prologue and i was like damn this is a it was like a major info dump but yeah moving on to good thing you weren't reading all the prologues back then i know i'm so glad i did that was too much yeah i'm glad we don't have to do that anymore um on to the infamous
[00:54:39] champagne and bullets so fond of that i mean people people know it but it's one of those ones i've known it existed but for us to sit down and watch it was a lot of fun i mean there was some wings hauser was in it you know there's all sorts of great little nuggets in this william smith once again was in this how many times william smith shows up well and he's going to show up again of course so yeah uh highly recommend that is that's a good party movie if you got people over
[00:55:08] and they want to watch something put that on everybody be laughing it's uh it's a hoot everybody loves the shimmy slide song it's great episode 68 we went on to parole violators which i have more fun with than i would have thought and it's crazy they break physics in it quite a lot suspended a lot of belief but another one of these made written directed by the same people it was a stuntman and
[00:55:34] his son who was also a stuntman and i think my favorite scene in that movie is where the bad guys have everybody captive and they had the little girl in the raft in the pool and they're saying if you keep fighting we'll poke another hole in the raft and she's going to sink and then we found out that they actually because it was all shot in the bay area and then we find out that the raft was actually stolen from the front of a swimming pool service there swimming pool sales company in
[00:56:01] in dali city it's so ridiculous that that movie was made like that but low budget just you know fringe filmmaking yeah and dumb fun which i don't know if i could say for 69 which was rollerblade it doesn't quite come together also starring william smith yes and again and and he's still gonna come up again
[00:56:26] after this yeah donald g jackson who directed rollerblade this is in the z grade movie category the ending is amazing it's ridiculous but what i think was cooler about watching this movie is just learning more about who donald g jackson was and he was nothing but professional of low budget filmmaking and i mentioned on the episode that i found a documentary and he's talking out of his
[00:56:54] studio he's like i rented two offices we had and i would do all the writing we had an editor there and he said the editor was the most expensive thing they had in their all of their production back in the day and he said basically he had it down where he could bring in a movie for 35 to 40 000 a piece and he had a formula and he could get it done which is impressive exactly and he's like they would hit
[00:57:18] the video shelves and they would make money he gets cut off one day and he goes into the executives that they were on the lot and he's like hey what's happening like my editor said he didn't get paid what's going on and they basically shut him down and then what turns out is that he was able to bring these movies in for this low cost but the producers were selling these movies as 500 000 budgets
[00:57:44] they were pocketing 450 000 giving him the doesn't sound like any producer i know yeah i know it's crazy and but it's just a shame because he was such an honest filmmaker and he did a real lot with what little he was given and it was just great to learn about him when we did this episode and i think he
[00:58:07] is somebody who could have made a really good movie it's just sad that knowing this man had perpetual 500 000 budgets and he was making these movies for a tenth of that and they were still a watchable movie and it's just yeah it's a total bummer so also i don't think william smith was in this by the way wasn't he no i just looked it up i don't see him on the list oh maybe william smith is in uh
[00:58:33] another blade movie let me see i thought he i thought william smith was the the guy with the hood the main evil guy in this i don't think so or if he was he was uncredited i'm sorry william smith was in the follow-up movie of this rollerblade 7 from 1991 also directed by donald jackson yeah because he did a bunch of i think donald g jackson yeah he had well over 100 credits but out of his 40
[00:59:01] movies i think eight of these were something with blade in them blade this rollerblade that and william smith pops up in one of the these as well which is kind of the throwback but then still watch uh legend of the rollerblade 7 by the way it'll come back yeah because it it's also got joe estevez and frank stallone in it karen black's in it oh wow there's there's reason right there to
[00:59:26] watch we could we could either do a donald g jackson's uh season or we could do a william smith season and we could find some doozies in there i'm sure but that that did wrap up that season and then we're on episode 70 and right out of the gate jason just nailed it with sometime directors yeah the pursuit which is uh michael creighton's first sort of directing foray and he'd only do it a couple more
[00:59:51] times this was fun this was this was 24 before it was 24 yep and exactly yeah we both enjoyed this considering it's a made-for-tv movie from 72 it was like yeah and we learned on this that it was a movie of the week and then the studio liked it the network liked it so much they hung on to it and kept it for the fall for the higher ratings because they're like it's a movie of the week we don't want to burn it because it's that good and then moved it up this was also the prelude to what ended up
[01:00:21] becoming um duel was the next movie of the week that they did that turn wait right get that out of order when was duel i think duel was later so yeah 71 now that's what it was yeah because yeah because duel was their big was meant to be movie of the week and then was big and then they sat on it and then re-released it and then that's kind of what happened with this with the pursuit they're like this is really good but cinema and then they did like a christmas release with it and it's got a
[01:00:49] great cost and there's a young martin sheen in there and uh it's fun movie i'm i'm glad i watched that i found it it looked good it was cool yeah i really enjoyed it then 1970 go ahead yeah you'll have to go for no you can go for it okay 71 the ninth configuration a movie i wanted to love so dearly it is the unofficial exorcist 3 in so many ways there's so much intertwining with it
[01:01:18] the stacy keach the it's it's wacky it's slow in spots but the poster is one of my favorite posters that we've covered and it's pretty amazing yeah it is uh it's it's high concept sci-fi i don't know what else to say it's truly a real exorcist sequel had a good twist i didn't catch jason was well aware of the twist deep into the movie saw it coming but uh yeah no there you go recommend anybody
[01:01:46] yeah it's definitely worth watching even if uh like i said i didn't really enjoy it that much but i'm glad i watched it it was uh i think it held a lot more potential than what came together but um you know could have been great we followed that up with 72 where i subjected sam to a mainstream movie i don't know why we watched this oh i just wanted an excuse yeah put it in but you know it's
[01:02:11] it's cory feldman's film debut so why would you not want to watch uh time after time from 1979 that's true in our 72nd uh movie so yeah it's we won't we won't go into it too much but it's san francisco movie you love i did enjoy that i enjoyed seeing that that was right and uh yeah it's just i i watched it with my mother i think when i was like nine or ten and uh i hadn't seen it since so i
[01:02:38] enjoyed watching it again because it's it's a quaint fun tale about h.g wells yeah it was a little too good for us but it's it's it was an enjoyable movie definitely but yeah yeah then episode 73 we covered in now sometime directors legendary soul bass doing phase four i really enjoyed learning more about soul bass on this and all of his history of titles and all of his intro and title cards even
[01:03:03] we found out the warner brothers logo that we love like all the stuff the geffen record the things that you grew up with and around you you don't realize how much stuff soul bass actually created and drew and everything he did was so appealing phase four was the reason we did this season because i was trying to come up with a reason to watch phase four on the show because i like it very much and then we
[01:03:26] turned it into this and uh it's it's great the poster's great it's it's totally 70s it's weird paced people don't really get it it's a lot of macro it is weird i'm glad i watched the one that has the voiceover because i wouldn't have had a clue what was going on otherwise but um this is this is one of those ones i came around on i didn't particularly like it at first after first watching kind of eh but the more i think about it the more i'm like yeah okay i can kind of see what you tried
[01:03:55] to do there yeah and you got to give them credit yeah it's enjoyable to it's a it's a movie it's enjoyable to talk about versus watching all the time yeah this should be an art film it doesn't quite achieve that level yeah but uh but it's close and uh the score is fantastic and uh that's how did did you pick the resurrected i guess you did uh yeah i guess i did i think i think you kind
[01:04:22] of suggested it for me oh because i think you picked something there yeah i had something i had i had a different dan oban one i wanted to do oh that's right i wanted to do return to the living dead and you wouldn't let me well you can't do we went with the resurrection you already blew your one card on time after time we can't do there's a million podcasts out there that do return to live your dead but i will say after we did the resurrected podcasting after dark uh a couple other
[01:04:49] shows then there was a blu-ray release we were just ahead of the game on this on this movie and it kind of just blew up right after i uh tagged todd masters the vfx guy for this uh the vfx supervisor for this movie and he replied to our posts like and then this movie just kind of resurfaced just after we did the episode which was kind of cool but some good stop motion a good it's a it's a pi movie with a
[01:05:17] esoteric very very 90s vancouver movie is what it is there you go so very very 90s vancouver movie looks it but uh yeah there you go 75 we did legend the golden vampires this was this is godfrey ho right had to be yeah which was you cheating because there's no way this was a sometime director
[01:05:40] but no oh yeah that's right because roy ward baker kind of directed this and then chai chang who was a stump supervisor on this did it so roy ward baker certainly not a sometime director but because chai chang was on this that was the way you're like it's fine so um but of course we got a peter cushing
[01:06:04] movie and i believe this was the last time on screen that peter cushing you cushing played which was great to see yeah some fun kung fu some classic goofy stuff in it yep i enjoyed it anybody likes kung fu yeah that one is probably lesser than that it's good and then 76 you dug up i dug up hickey and boggs which is robert culp's one and only uh narrative film i guess because he directed uh
[01:06:33] wrote directed and narrated a uh documentary i think as well but otherwise yeah this one uh this was on the cusp of being something great and i really really really wanted to love this and it doesn't quite get there but uh it's still a fun watch you're mad because it has like no genre-ness to it whatsoever but uh but truly sometime director so uh and early cosby and again it was shot beautifully this was a
[01:07:02] beautiful looking movie it yes early just 70s good grit la stuff well and this is this is a this is an iSpy reunion for them right a few years after they finished that show so that's right you said that yeah it is kind of weird to hear hill cosby say we got to find that bitch um has a very different connotation nowadays but uh there you go you got to think about it it's like you could say this is
[01:07:29] almost lethal weapon before lethal weapon in some ways some way because it's in some ways lethal weapon is always is odd couple but they're cops yeah and that's yeah these two aren't really so odd couple though and they're private investigators and they're burned out former cops who are and they're burned out and but what i did like about it is they're vietnam vets and there's some ptsd on display in here without it being blatant yeah but it's very obvious that's what they're portraying
[01:07:57] um for both of them especially with robert culp like he just said um you know at one point he just turns around says i'm sleeping in the drunk tank tonight turns around and walks back into the bar yeah and i was just like yeah so these guys were broken there's some great character development here um the script is obviously significantly flawed it sounds like there were some rewrites and they had they had to try and make a budget that wasn't going to be there for them this this could
[01:08:21] have been great right it was it's one of those that fell only because of some poor filmmaking decisions or inabilities to make those yeah i think it's more inabilities i think they were just they were hamstrung by a budget that got splashed on them yeah it was a good find though i'm glad i watched it yeah unfortunately as much as i ridiculed you for the next one um it's you know i'm still
[01:08:46] kind of glad i watched dark side of the moon as well but it's not a good movie yeah so for episode 77 we jumped to 1994 dark side of the moon and the interesting thing about that was their interesting use of geography and geometry and physics that's all wrong on all all fronts i i love the bermuda triangle i love space i love space horror and if you can combine the bermuda
[01:09:14] triangle on the moon it is incredible the way yeah that that scene because i know you put it on instagram and i put it on tiktok it's one of our highest viewed ones on tiktok it's so funny because well it coincided with the whole thing of like there's a bunch of stuff on reddit with what's with these three cities being in a straight line and like what's the significance of these cities being in a circle and i just wrote and said the bermuda triangle forms a triangle on the moon
[01:09:41] and uh it was it's a great it's it's it's hilarious yeah it's a fun weird wacky space movie the reason i picked it for this because dj webster directed it and he had done nothing but music videos before this and nothing but music videos after this so this is an only one-time feature director and it's just a wacky space movie i recommend anybody to check it out it's slow it
[01:10:07] doesn't make sense there's some weird stuff in it but we'll never get movies like this again and the fact that they correlate everything it's got a yeah it's got a spaceship ai that dresses like dominatrix and yeah for some reason and the concept of a space shuttle that crash landed in the ocean on earth in the bermuda triangle and now this exploration space station stumbles across this space shuttle
[01:10:34] that crashed 40 years ago however long it was in the ocean it's still full of water it's still full of seaweed it's it's cool because it's been transported to space yeah it's cool like this is a great idea like you could make a great graphic novel from this you could make you make a great movie from this it it has the right things for it this is almost in the realm of like if you went really dark and weird
[01:10:58] and event horizon with this this could be a very good movie it just unfortunately didn't have any of that with it but um no and then moving on uh we got a couple christmas movies and i brought us uh the first first one uh blast of silence from 1961 i love i still love this movie i'm gonna watch it again it's uh yeah it's um it's it's got a resurgence because it came up criterion
[01:11:28] kind of dug it up and they brought out put out a release of it and i wouldn't have even known about it if it wasn't the fact that sean phillips did the artwork for the criterion version really that's it because yeah that's that's how i caught it because i'm a fan of his he and brubaker did this criminal series and he's done a few other things i've got a signed poster of sean phillips right behind my monitor that i can see right now um and you know he also did the poster for the for the
[01:11:54] original night of the living dead for criterion oh really he did that as well yeah and which i've also got but it's just like and it's because of his discovery of this movie and i'm just i had to seek it out and i i loved it it was great it was it was writer director and actor from 1961 but what was cool about it is this movie was truly lost for over 40 years scorsese ends up getting word of it because people were competently made yeah and it was but it was shot it was gorilla style
[01:12:23] shot too so all the shots of him walking down in new york city rockefeller square like rockefeller center all the stuff is just there's no lights there's a shooting and it looks like a noir film should everything's in shadow it's gritty it's cold there's narration there's a lot of good stuff about that movie but we did find that ultimately the word got out that a whole copy existed that was
[01:12:48] assembled from the high school 18 millimeter prints and one reel found in a private collector's estate sale all around the world and got reassembled so it's just cool that film nerds brought this movie back together and then scorsese funded the proper restore for it and it existed or would have been gone like so many others so it's kind of awesome um i i did enjoy it i enjoyed it a lot more than my
[01:13:15] pick for christmas which is episode 79 trapped alive whatever average creature feature in a cave yeah i think you called it uh timu hills have eyes monster yeah that's exactly what it is yeah it's very basic there's nothing worth in there except it was a christmas movie we hadn't seen the interesting part about it is that this was the beginning of the windsor lake studios where in wisconsin which
[01:13:41] started what would become fangoria films and then fangoria films went on to make mind warp and a couple other films exactly before that all four so it was cool to see that the the beginning that that movie laid the ground there but um and then we were on to the new year and we get into our current season which is uh forgotten apocalypse which we're doing probably all year probably for a
[01:14:06] while for episode 80 you ring in the new year uh forgotten apocalypse begins and we started off with the final sanction which is not really an apocalyptic movie but there's a nuclear war at the beginning and i figured why not start that way that's right because it has robert zadar and william smith once again exactly yeah no those are fun so you can't learn i'm surprised that you've seen it hokey in so many ways with so many plot holes and problems but it had a feel-good ending
[01:14:34] and that's what make made up for the whole movie to me i was just like this is almost like i think i refer to it as like a sequel to red heat like it could have been it's like the movie ended where i wanted it to start it would have been cool exactly yeah episode 81 we enter the world and we are continuing to delve into the wonderful cero h santiago on so many ways the wheels of fire five
[01:15:03] filipino mad max what could go wrong okay maybe lots of flaws problems it's in a quarry what else can we say we've been talking about these movies a lot it's nothing stand out but just add it to the pile if you're into apocalypse movies for sure on to 80 episode 82 ravagers starring apparently ernest borgnine who was in it for what do we figure like 17 minutes or something yeah i was a little upset
[01:15:32] about that yeah well we both were my friend otherwise an okay movie a traverse film that felt like they got somewhere like i i said it's very much kind of a prequel of what the smokers would end up being in water world in some ways yeah yeah and i like that idea yeah so kind of cool even though they sank the
[01:15:56] boat yeah yeah yeah uh watchable good cast again borgnine's great when he's on screen there's just not much of it check it out probably won't i don't think i bought this this is like i just didn't buy it on blur yeah but i don't i don't know if i'd watch it again yeah speaking of our next one you've probably watched several times since we did you know reviewed it the first time episode 83 my disc is out for delivery so i will finally receive tomorrow um it's been a long time trying to get
[01:16:25] a hold of this movie the one and the only human animals that we covered that was a silent film in the sense that there's no dialogue but lots of efforts and grunts of course you all know that it's full of incest and bestiality but it's still extremely watchable because it asks the question what would people do and how long does it take people to return to primal components or primal levels of instinct
[01:16:54] and so the movie is more interesting than you'd expect somehow a movie with no dialogue we still managed to talk about it for a long time i recommend it to anybody who's into film just because it's interesting and it's obscure and it's i don't jason's still traumatized from it i i think it's actually a good movie because it sparks conversation and uh i happily will own it and happily recommend it to people because it's pretty wacky and we don't get that because you're a pervert we will not get
[01:17:24] movies like this ever again so i recommend it in every there's a reason for that jason tried to cleanse our palate in episode 84 with yeah i'd say successfully so with genesis 2 the first of three gene roddenberry movies made for tv movies that i subjected sam to and uh this is the best of the three and they just get progressively worse it was but i i think yeah well we're going to talk
[01:17:49] about it in a second but i i think it didn't look the best but it was the most interesting because i hadn't heard this story before but by the time we watched the third damn version of this i was so done with the story so i don't need to see it again i appreciate roddenberry on forever i appreciate roddenberry on a lot of levels and i i just think this wasn't i i wish he'd spent his time somewhere else
[01:18:16] on these movies because well and even by the third he that wasn't him they were just using his phoning it exactly so yeah yeah yeah and then you know we got uh we eventually get well we'll get to all that so then on the episode 85 we went to 1975's the ultimate warrior was starring yul brenner
[01:18:35] max von seidel and william smith once again yep an okay movie for something that's shot in one location to try and make it feel like it's set in old in new york yeah it's not terrible and and yul brenner is just uh forced to watch on screen always so he feels he's the ultimate tough guy and it's yul brenner
[01:19:00] escorting uh very extremely rare plant seeds that could save the human race and a pregnant woman through the subway which if i recall was the largest set ever built at the time for warners for that separate because i was like this is filmed and it's like it's not even shot in a subway and they actually built the whole set so it's big budget back lot stuff and it's just cool to see
[01:19:26] yul brenner in 75 just going ham on people yep exactly and then we we followed that up with the second of my roddenberries and planet earth and uh now we've got john saxon entering the picture we would get him again playing a complete john saxon playing the same character as um as was portrayed in the first movie but john saxon was not the actor portraying him right um and then we would get
[01:19:53] john we'll get john saxon again in the next one uh not playing the same character he's playing in this one just to make everything super confusing yeah just how you like to do it this movie looked better it had some better components but i still it still felt like another roddenberry tv pilot and this was 75 this was 70 uh might have been no 74 i think and then the other one was
[01:20:20] no the other two were 75 both 75 75 so genesis is like 73 or 74 but so this is genesis was 73 this was 74 and like like spring of 74 and then the third one will be like the fall of 74 this one felt a little more star trekky to me as far as the costumes and the wardrobe and stuff like that yeah the land yeah it even had uh diana mulder in it who would go on to play dr polanski on star trek the next generation
[01:20:47] right um you know 15 years later kind of thing it's it's all right it it looks good it's it's fine it's uh you know the best part about it is they call men dinks which i just still like but other than that you know and and again i had watched all three of these before so i knew what i was getting into yeah and i knew what i was gonna do to you and uh i still did
[01:21:13] it i think i liked watching that as you will of our friendship i know how it goes out for 100 episodes i think i liked watching this better than genesis 2 but because genesis 2 already set up the scenario and the idea i didn't learn anything just to a better world building than this one did yeah exactly yeah um the next episode i don't have title what was the 87 it would have been my pick
[01:21:37] uh that was rats oh yeah rats a night of terror from let's see 19 yeah so episode 87 we covered rats not a terror everybody's seen it everybody knows it it's strangely highly view count i i don't know if the movie just got a resurgence or something like that but it's a lot of people talked about this didn't have like uh didn't have didn't somebody put out a copy of it recently yeah there's a blu-ray i bought the vinyl from it because the score is great i mean it's incredible the vinyl the vinyl
[01:22:07] exists of it so that tells you why that the movie's somewhat popular yeah uh it was uh right it's it's not a great movie it's worth it for the end sequence which is the the the better version of the planet of the apes ending that tim burton did in the burton apes version but it's rats i'm just gonna say that's it if you can follow my link yeah and well you'll find a poster where it gives the ending away
[01:22:33] so immediately exactly yeah yeah ep 88 we return for one more roddenberry remix strange new world uh easily the uh the one roddenberry's not not involved with and easily the worst of the three it was horrible it's uh yeah and it this one felt like two episodes of the series smacked together and just done and it it feels like a direct sequel to the second movie but it's not and like i said
[01:23:02] they're playing they they do a rejigged version of the opening and they just they changed it a bit now it's the three of them are lost on the earth and yeah it john saxon returns the the idea john saxon returns is a new character and it literally feels like two episodes of a series smuck together that's probably what they did they do their scripts yeah you said that and when we were talking about originally and i was like you're right it clicked with me and i well they even do like a recap they come back from a christian break yeah there's dips to black it's the whole thing yeah
[01:23:32] and it's it's not great i think i would have i would probably view it higher if i hadn't seen genesis 2 and planet earth before that but i was so tired of this whole damn thing by this time you're welcome yeah so i i think that also swayed my idea of it but i i don't need to go back to that i don't need to watch it for entertainment i will gain nothing out of re-watching any of
[01:23:59] genesis planet earth or this um yeah no but uh you you you redeemed everything by uh the next one which was endgame episode 89 episode 89 yeah and this this was a treasure this was a this was a gem yeah from 1983 what started out as generic apocalypse movie that's set with a game show i was thinking i was
[01:24:22] going to get running man that was the first act and this movie turned into a world size whole or like a larger scale concept that mutants exist and superpowers this is kind of yep it was really cool and we actually saw i mean even though the execution of seeing the mutants do their superpowers it's like it's somewhat and the idea was there and it's very strong and we hadn't seen this really in a
[01:24:49] post-apocalyptic movie like this no it was it was uh cool it um yeah like if if we're getting anything's going to remake this is the sort of thing you remake yeah this is this is high concept and it's it's not quite properly well executed so if we done modern day it would be i mean you could have a kid lifting rocks with his mind and not see the string would be great that does summarize the movie but yeah it uh
[01:25:17] it's good on all of its levels and for being some italian movie from for 1983 this movie could be really good if it was made now and done right especially with the popularity of the return of the unfortunate remake of the running man this is the movie that would explore that stuff really well i just thought it was going to be a game show movie it was a whole lot more yeah very enjoyable yep and then we went on to not so much our next one episode 90 this is all on you yeah it's
[01:25:47] crime zone but we get david carradine not the last time we'll see of him no but our first appearance and we also get yeah but we also get charilyn fenn which always makes me happy uh yeah it's it's okay again this is the one that could probably handle being remade as well it's it's not a terrible idea it's just not well executed um they did do some clever stuff they like as we discussed they shot a whole bunch of stuff at night to hide the fact that their sets weren't looking good yeah which was
[01:26:17] smart pushed pushed a little bit of the cyberpunk neon tone like post blade runner not the grit the blade runner has just this neon polish weird movie you can tell carradine as i always said carradine acts like he's just unfortunately had to show up but he's great to see he's always enjoyable on screen and this had some concepts and a cool twist in it that i enjoyed that i would have liked
[01:26:44] to see explored and utilized better i think is the way i would say it it was almost there as a great movie it just was missing those things yeah it was close uh episode 1991 we go to new zealand episode 91 no i keep saying yeah episode 91 we travel to new zealand for battle truck which
[01:27:09] everybody knows the poster the opening shot of the movie is great um the rest of it is mediocre yeah 1982 also known as warlords of the wasteland and whatever country you were in when it was released it uh could have done more it's post apocalypse in
[01:27:31] in uh the simplest form a goody two-shoe collective are being attacked by a roving gang of raiders and there's really nothing more to it is there's some nice stuff to see because it's shot in new zealand so there's some nice helicopter shots and everything else doesn't feel like there's a quarry in it which is also refreshing but there's there's nothing groundbreaking here we'd seen it all by this
[01:27:57] point you have to give it something that you know mad max to 79 road warriors 82 this was being made when road warrior was being made so you can't say it's a complete knockoff but it also hasn't developed the full-on s&m gear and everything else at that point an okay movie says there's some great shots in it that i
[01:28:20] like but the movie as a whole is uh i i'm not i'm not dying to put it back on the on but uh i probably will at some point yeah um we followed that up with episode 92 which was equalizer 2000 bringing robert patrick into the mix robert patrick's first film appearance yep and didn't even recognize
[01:28:45] them at first and never thought we'd have a movie that was about a very ridiculous prop yeah and that's all it is and it looks ridiculous it doesn't make sense why they want it and once they get it they don't really utilize it it's the idea of of the idea of the world revolving around this gun that was just made by a regular guy it would be cooler if the gun was found in a cave just like conan finds his sword you
[01:29:11] know it's a sword of a king it's like yeah in the thing there's so much more to it the weight that goes on this gun in this movie when it's just fabricated in a cave by a guy just it detaches from it and i think that was the biggest failure of it but glad i watched it because it's cool to see patrick but uh not rushing back to see this also a serious a zero h santiago film once again i believe right yep yep not the first time not the last not the last that's for sure
[01:29:41] so then in episode 93 i brought us back to warrior of the lost world i have to look that up because i can't even remember it oh yes history yeah awesome poster awesome poster donald pleasance returns to us since visiting us from the mutations and this would be uh uh eight years later in his career that he's
[01:30:09] coming back to visit us on the show awesome poster weird we get a return from fred williamson as well yeah that's right and a weird yep uh saturday afternoon disney sidekick motorcycle with light-hearted comments tells our main character what to do in a serious movie so it's very hard to understand because
[01:30:37] donald pleasance's character is very dark in this he's like called his daughter at gunpoint he's gonna kill her but then the bike is is like an r2d2 it's like an r2 unit and it talks goofy and it does all this stuff the movie doesn't really know what it is the poster certainly portrays a different kind of movie uh i enjoyed watching it i liked it enough that i bought it and i bought the poster but i
[01:31:02] the soundtrack if i can get a hold of it i i don't find i don't know what else to say about it it's um it's a weird movie especially the end how the giant the giant dump truck how it's diffused and everything like the boss fight is just so weakly done where he just lays under it yes it's yeah it's there's poor filmmaking but there's also low budget filmmaking and it's a combination of the both and
[01:31:27] you just don't care about any of the characters and there's a whole weird spiritual component where he like teleports through the wall at the beginning of the cliff face just it's just the movie just doesn't know what it is as much as the poster tells you what kind of movie it is it's all over the place yeah yeah it's all over the place oh uh yeah 94 world gone wild i really wanted to like this movie
[01:31:54] i i really thought i found a gem here and uh i was sadly mistaken but you know this is a movie that has katherine mary stewart and gives us return to michael perry and the return again of anthony james it's also got bruce stern and adam ant yeah what a goody goody two shoes himself yeah and uh it's uh yeah it doesn't doesn't quite work what's funny about it is that it doesn't work but after we're
[01:32:23] watching these other movies since then and being like this is the same story even the world gone while came later this is a common apocalypse type movie with there's a spring and there's water and everything else well it's the better version of my next pick which was dune warriors which i had no idea um but it is the better version of the two so there you go yeah it was great to see bruce stern on screen as always playing kind of a hippie i don't need to own this movie i don't think i'm
[01:32:51] gonna buy it it's there's there's nothing redeeming but there's no good music for it there's no like i can't the soundtrack nothing again michael perry that's great to see him back but yeah i'm not uh i'm not running down the whole way putting it on the tv and katherine mary stewart's awesome from you know she's from the last starfighter and uh night of the comet right yeah you're a favorite yeah
[01:33:15] mm-hmm love both those movies but and then after that uh i decided we're gonna slum it with land of doom for episode 95 uh with some yeah that was from 1986 uh what else can i say about this this is cookie cutter knockoff post-apocalyptic schlock there's not anything outstanding about this it looked better than some of the stuff but there's it's it's like right in the middle of the road it doesn't
[01:33:45] try anything like endgame it doesn't uh it doesn't have the grit that wheels of fire has or any of those serious santiago movies it's just right in the middle kind of slowly becoming it's the beginning of the tail end of the s&m mad max movies and the guys motorcycles just look so ridiculous i couldn't take any of it seriously yes they do so on to episode 96 you punished us once again with the 90
[01:34:15] 1991's dune warriors and again not realizing it that it is a it is a complete ripoff i won't even say it's a remake because it's not it's a ripoff of of um world gone wild and uh from our hero sirio h santiago the only difference is that this time we got david carradine without any david yeah david carradine and well lots of people don't see that bounce in this movie but uh yeah it's um it's not
[01:34:44] even really worth talking about well it just it just has that that early 90s look that i talked about in the episode that i don't like where things got more vibrant and they lost their grit and they lost their production and this is literally people standing around styrofoam walls that are shaped to look like i think i said medieval times like it's just everything looks like a set looks like a prop nobody looks
[01:35:09] like they've really lived out there and that's where i give it to the earlier series santiago movies he actually the stuff just kind of looked a bit more genuine as much as we would see the same quarry the same vehicles or whatever it still had a grit and it had a visceral feel to it by the early 90s this had this weird studio polish that i just didn't like in any which way and it's it's it's very immediate
[01:35:36] when you see it but you can't explain it but when you watch the movie if you watch dune warriors and then you go back and watch something from earlier like endgame or like even wheels of fire or something from the same director you're just like why does this look so bad by comparison but that's the time that it was episode 97 we're back again mr steroid santiago welcomes us and this is 1983 so this is
[01:36:02] pre wheels of fire so this is his very first post-apocalyptic movie as we discussed looked pretty good didn't mind the heroes the the villains don't make a huge sense and of course this is the introduction to jawa midgets that we see through lots of his movies but the first time we see him we don't really know why this one has a little more grit to it it has a little more of that classic apocalypse
[01:36:30] satisfaction that you're watching that you want out of it but with the end scene and the way it plays out was just so weirdly underwhelming or not even underwhelming it just the movie just terminated in a weird way where it didn't feel finished or anything i am i did none of the characters carried weight none of the stuff but and and i say this with a grain of salt because none of these movies
[01:36:56] did but then i have to be like well wait a minute like a year ago man rogue warrior came out and that is everything about character and that is everything about lord humongous like you're terrified of him and you want to know what max is you don't want to know his backstory it can be done is what i'm saying and oh yeah these movies somehow don't quite do it and it's a shame because they look cool and it
[01:37:20] has the right thing but once again i bought tells you the talent of george miller that's all exactly yeah and but i bought the damn blu-ray because i like the movie enough so it's worth it it's worth of course you did yeah yeah and then for episode 98 98 american cyborg steel warrior you found a doozy return of joe lara
[01:37:48] yeah this uh and this this is really a terminator ripoff as opposed to a mad max ripoff so and actually yeah more sci-fi than post apocalypse but we were accepting it because it's in the post apocalypse world yeah okay looking movie looks like an early 90s movie with the neon and everything else i like the idea it's a traverse it's it's almost an escort mission because she's got this baby like you said
[01:38:14] like we discussed it's it's the timu version of children of men yeah it is in a lot of ways with uh you know some of uh kojima's move game thrown in i can't oh yeah uh death stranding totally death stranding yeah which which is which we know he had to have taken from this it's had to have as much as we say team as much as we say um children of men is the better version of this movie
[01:38:40] there's nothing in this movie that is like children of the men in the sense with the fetus in the jar so it it's entirely possible that ultimately that hideo kojima saw this and was inspired but we'll but we know that as we talk because gunhead was huge inspiration this is 93 so this isn't later this is his peak influential years so yeah i'd believe it he he it had to have been but yeah fun movie we get a great you know we have our cyborg comes flat out of the water at the end
[01:39:09] yeah just hilarious we get a fight in a very polluted you know water off of uh tel aviv yeah which everybody got sick from because they were pumping raw sewage in there and it was a good time filmmaking uh yeah fun movie yeah glad we watched it actually that was kind of funny exactly and that takes us to last week last week and i i i tried i found something i didn't think i'd seen or
[01:39:34] heard of even the poster in its own weird underwhelming way is cool and interesting the aftermath is a true utter real yeah and it's but it's so close to defcon 4 like i said i think i joked calling it defcon 3 it's like the prequel to it yeah missing a lot of issues and then as we found out it was shot in 77 the reshoots went all the way up to 83 a troubled film in every which way yeah i i
[01:40:03] don't think i'd recommend it over some of the other stuff but no we watched it and i bought the damn disc so i i don't even know why i i do know why i got it but i yeah i don't know i i kind of think i would watch this movie again because it has all the components of the apocalypse movies of different things like there's not a living dead is in there then there's defcon 4 in there but none of
[01:40:30] them do it right and it just it's yeah it's it's not its own movie it's little pieces of everything else but tell me tell me the disc has a commentary on it though that's why i got it yes okay good yeah then you'll have to let me know yeah exactly with two channel audio of course and then um that that would that might be worth it right there yeah and then that basically wraps up the year so yeah we
[01:40:56] don't need to recap the movie we started we just started with yeah the one movie that i won't be owning or going back to but again a true out of real because you found it and i would have never known it existed so uh as always we can't believe we've made it this far really it's it's a lot of fun and yep we're discovering these along with you guys and we love to say we watch them so you guys
[01:41:21] don't have to but again they're all just really fun entertaining movies and i i don't think i could watch a hundred modern movies in the last made in the last two years or the last five years and have as much fun talking about them because movies have just lost they've lost their charm they've lost their sheen or their there's just nothing that has a feel like this and so i enjoy we gotta watch dunes
[01:41:49] want part one and two what the new ones yeah yeah i don't like they're so good for a man who loves his graboids you certainly do complain about the sand and dude yeah but you know american graboids are there's just better and cooler it was funny did i tell you that uh there was a guy here doing some network chart we're getting some wi-fi extenders put out here and there's this guy from a
[01:42:18] tv company or whatever like home networking company or whatever it came out and he's like testing the wi-fi signal and then like he pulls up his phone he's like what's the wi-fi here called and i was like graboid because that's the name of my home not wi-fi network and he's like what and i was like yeah and i was like what is this and i was like that's american graboid and he's like oh okay he just didn't didn't even close together no um but i mean we we could watch these movies for a lifetime and dig
[01:42:46] through these with the exception of a human animals well it's just that's kind of it is there's so much good stuff behind us why even try to find good stuff good new stuff out there because like the deeper we dig the more of these movies you find like these are the movies these are like flyover country movies right like most people these days that we know and work with and live around would be like that's dumb i'm never gonna look at it and no i i like the fact that we're rediscovering
[01:43:16] it does not mean that i'm not gonna watch new movies i'm just saying i'm having more fun than anything new because there's just nothing that i'm excited for like there's just yeah but that's because you're dead inside of course yeah yeah my only way that i find solace in the is in these old films and but i'm having a great time doing it with you and thank you man it's been really fun i can't believe we made it this far and it's all because of you guys who listen and send us messages and it's always
[01:43:44] we always get a kick out of hearing from the community because it uh it's energizing it's great it's great to hear that other people dig this as well we we started doing it thinking we would just be like oh we'll just do this because it'll force us to watch stuff and uh now we're finding you know it's another day goes by where somebody's like oh i love that movie or i saw this or whatever and it's it's really awesome so we love hearing that yeah and looking forward to another hundred yeah
[01:44:10] here we go man awesome well i appreciate it thank you guys and we will definitely see you at the movies bye so therefore whatever appears on television screen emerges as raw experience for those who watch it therefore television is reality and reality is less than television